With Detroit’s Bankruptcy, Anarchists Have Begun Project “Free Detroit” – Starting a Community

By on August 8, 2013
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by Ezra Van Auken

The city of Detroit isn’t looking too pretty to date. On July 18th as many know, Detroit filed for bankruptcy after falling an estimated $20 billion in debt to over 100,000 creditors. Due to the inability for the city government to provide for goods and services it once could, common emergency calls are questionable on reply, police hours have been cut back, and ambulance and fire services are not completely reliable. Other services such as education and social benefits from the state-run workplace are showing decline as well.

With much of the city in disarray and literally moving away, the cost of living has gone down dramatically with housing prices in some cases reaching only a single dollar. Taking advantage of the opportunity to cash in on cashless houses, Michigan market-anarchists from the “Michigan Peace and Liberty Coalition” are coming together to put “theory into reality” when it comes to free markets. The group has deemed the project “Free Detroit” and they mean business, literally.

In their plans, coalition members believe they’ll be purchasing an estimated five blocks of property, whether it is the individual who pays for the house and lives there or someone who buys it merely to invest in the idea. Katie Testa, an active member in MPLC and participant in Free Detroit, contacted The State Weekly, telling us that there’s been a tremendous amount of support towards the project. Testa also said many entrepreneurial spirits are joining in on the project, as they see Free Detroit as a way to explore anarchy.

Testa explained that part of having well-aligned market-anarchists to “utilize their own unique skills and abilities” will result in providing goods and services that city officials can no longer promise. Part of what Free Detroit members hope to provide is food production, security, water collection, education, construction, communications, child services and many others – through agorism, without any government intervention. The Michigan native told TSW that her hopeful role would be educational services.

I have connected with a few other individuals who are interested in founding a free school in alignment with meeting the unique needs of each individual child involved while honoring their autonomy and curiosity,” bringing up the idea of “unschooling” in a group setting. In addition, Testa told TSW that a dispute resolution and mediation service would inspire her as well, looking towards solving community problems through a win/win situation and not a punishment/reward model – calling that the status quo.

The State Weekly got in touch with Rob Bert as well, who is an active member for Free Detroit. Bert told TSW that support for the market-anarchist approach has been worldwide with true consideration online and idea sharing. Asking Bert how a community-based anarchy inside a government-run city would work, regarding conditions, Bert replied, “Literacy programs, job opportunities through privately owned farms and home renovation, extensive permaculture development to feed the hungry,” and other outreach programs.

Without setting the bar too high, Bert noted, “I feel that fundamental concerns like security, blight, food production, and other immediate issues will need to first be taken care of before longer term services like education cooperatives can flourish.” The Free Detroit organizer sees this opportunity as a way for mutual cooperation and understanding as a community to arise, which in the future could only bring market-anarchist qualities, to a place where Free Detroit members say it’s needed.

Boiling down to it, what Free Detroit hopes to prove to Detroit, the nation and apparently the world, is that free market enterprise, voluntary actions and mutual cooperation are the laying foundations of a free and prosperous society. Organizers of the project have met in Detroit recently to construct and brainstorm their plans going forward.

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  1. remingtonalessi

    August 8, 2013 at 1:59 am

    Do they have contact information for people interested in getting involved?

    • ryan

      August 8, 2013 at 3:11 am

      Remington, try Facebook.

    • Mick McNulty

      August 9, 2013 at 6:19 am

      These communes are a good idea but I think in the current right-wing authoritarian state they will eventually be battered down and removed. They will be safer to build after this current direction is reversed and will be the safest, most productive way to get society back on its feet with regard to regular food supply and care of the less able-bodied etc.

      • Lewis Smart

        August 10, 2013 at 3:45 am

        The direction may be reversed BY these communes.

      • travis

        August 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm

        I don’t think they are trying to start communes.

      • Simon

        August 24, 2013 at 1:49 pm

        “right-wing authoritarian state”? Who’s been governing the nation for the last five years? Who’s been governing Detroit for the last fifty plus years, genius?

        Read a book.

        • Whadufuch?

          September 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm

          Sorry your critical distribution of facts don’t fit the “koombayah” narrative, and thus are not welcome in our little make believe utopia.

      • Karl

        September 4, 2013 at 6:49 am

        I think that if you had left out the “right-wing” portion of your comment and simply said “authoritarian state”, you would not have had as many people taking exception with you. I agree that this movement, if showing signs of success, will eventually be treated as “terrorist” by the state.

    • sined

      August 9, 2013 at 2:36 pm

      anarchy by the oppressor? this is just gentrification?

  2. Rob

    August 8, 2013 at 7:16 am

    Contact can be made through the facebook page at:

    http://www.facebook.com/liberatedetroit

  3. tman4prez

    August 8, 2013 at 10:38 am

    @remingtonalessi
    I’m wondering the same thing. I’m a carpenter, and would seriously consider moving.

  4. anon

    August 8, 2013 at 11:10 am

    And who exactly wants to live in these places? If the packs of wild dogs aren’t enough, the punks and criminals are sure to ruin your life.

    • AhabStruggle

      August 9, 2013 at 4:37 am

      It’s always adorable hearing skeptics bad mouth Detroit in absurd ways. The wild dogs don’t even roam in packs. Maybe you should move their before baselessly judging it from afar.

      • Greg

        August 10, 2013 at 7:59 am

        I live in Detroit and have seen the dogs in packs before.

    • zac

      August 9, 2013 at 4:53 am

      “punks and criminals”
      you know nothing about anarchism

      • Whadufuch?

        September 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm

        He was talking about the existing citizenry, who will ultimately eat the altruism for lunch.

  5. Francisco Ramos

    August 8, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I’m willing to do security or farm. Sign me up.

    • Sam

      August 8, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      Sign me up. I can put in some sweat equity.

  6. Russ

    August 8, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    So if the city of Detroit is no longer able to effectively provide the aforementioned services, leaving the public to fend for itself, when can the community expect to be relieved of their tax burdens? If only…

    • Lewis Smart

      August 10, 2013 at 4:43 am

      Alternative economic infrastructure needs to be developed that allows people to relieve themselves of the taxes imposed by the conventional infrastructure.
      There are already ways, if you’re savvy about it.

      • bert

        August 12, 2013 at 11:05 am

        do tell? that was my concern as well, and how long, should they indeed prosper as I hope they will, until the state decides it wants in on their action.

        This is truly inspiring and having had many anarcho-communist friends who are too lazy to thrive in their own proffered paradigm, I am ecstatic to this develop on the basis of true Voluntaryism.

        • Lewis Smart

          August 12, 2013 at 6:14 pm

          Well, one way simple way to do it is to keep your traceable money (ie what you have in regular banks or credit unions) below the tax-free threshold, and do everything else with cash, some other medium of value, or cryptocurrencies.

          I ain’t sayin its easy. A complete evasion of tax would take dedication, but in simple terms the more that one can avoid systems that record ones money flow, the greater the reduction. This gets easier if you live on some sort of intentional community where others are doing similar things.

          An increase in use of cryptocurrencies or local currencies obviously would provide a significant avenue for living outside the tax system, that’s the alternative infrastructure I’m talking about.

    • Whadufuch?

      September 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm

      The tax burden has historically been that of disenfranchised suburbanites, who work in the city and actually pay their city income tax and water bills, unlike Detroit city residents.

  7. Leo

    August 8, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    So, are they under the assumption that it’s the State entity that caused this problem, and that if they have a Stateless Anarcho-Capitalist system that everything will work out?

    I hope I’m reading that wrong… Contrary to common belief about markets is that markets NEED scarcity, otherwise there’s no point in selling anything because things would be abundantly available -like air-, so how are they going to free anything running a system that requires scarcity to function?

    • Michael

      August 8, 2013 at 3:13 pm

      You’re missing the point. They’re eliminating the Keynesian system in their community. By creating abundance and providing on a barter-based-in-needs system, they move to prosperity without greed.

      Said differently, scarcity creates a greed-based mentality. Community abundance creates a generous mentality.

      • Leo

        August 8, 2013 at 6:32 pm

        Sure, but there are still many similarities between Keynesian and Austrian economics. The whole system is basically the same except there’s no State entity, hence no “physical coercion”, yet there’s still the same structural violence that neither system addresses.

        • missleef

          August 8, 2013 at 9:54 pm

          Ah, you just nailed it. Scarcity of commodity brings about violence. It’s the very reason some of the poorest communities in this country (and around the world) are some of the most violent. Reason being is that everyone is competing with one another rather than co-operating. It’s really time to explore win-win situations, and I absolutely support Free Detroit in their efforts to “test” the waters here. It should be fairly obvious, by now, that the government is not fit to provide for our every need… be it food, medicine, education or security. Classically, I had always shunned the idea of anarchy… afterall, it’s got a pretty negative context in modern culture. Alas, after much debate, research and life experience, I’ve found that it is truly up to communities to provide the necessities of life. Even if you do not agree, you have to admit that it would revitalize the idea of “personal responsibility” which we see very little of these days.

    • Ludwig von Mises

      August 8, 2013 at 3:51 pm

      Markets don’t need scarcity, they need demand. Market models should be thought of not even as supply and demand as they are actually demand and supply. The demand is put forth first and a supply of goods/services rises to meet that demand. Markets are free by their very nature. As demands and supplies vary markets move dynamically to meet at a place of mutual consent. Detroit is an example of managed economies which aren’t markets all all, they’re corporatist havens where the power of state and business converge to suppress market freedoms.

      • Leo

        August 8, 2013 at 6:41 pm

        ..and how do you think Demand is created? When people don’t have access to things, the alternative is purchase; so, in a system that requires profit, there is no other option except to keep what perpetuates profit: namely, scarcity.

        Sure that makes sense in the limited context, but as a whole what motivation is there for a company (or anyone for that matter) to create so much of an abundance (created via technology and by using Systems Theory) that there would be no need for people to submit to work (that requires enough income for a company to even afford an Employment System) because their needs are met? None..

        Employment is looked at like it’s the “savior” of mankind, as if more jobs = prosperity. This is a common delusion that somehow economic growth = social wellbeing. Maybe it’s no wonder how the US, while the most wealthy country in the world, also has the most violence, mental disorders, and obesity in all of the developed nations.

        Perhaps we should rethink our causality and motivation here. We don’t need to keep this system going, what we need is a new system that actually creates an intrinsic motivation to create an abundance as well as take care of the environment.

        You know.. use the Scientific Method directly in society.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDhSgCsD_x8
        ^This may explain what I’m talking about a little better. I hope it makes sense.

        • Fresco

          August 11, 2013 at 4:33 am

          I was reading that post and Before I had gotten to the end I was sure you would mention something about the RBE. Bravo, good sir.

        • James

          August 24, 2013 at 1:59 pm

          Problem with your statements is they can be show to be demonstrably false with the simplest of internet searches. The US does not have the most violence, does not have the most mental disorders (unless you include liberalism, then we are full of crazies), nor is the US the most obese.

          Read a book.

    • remingtonalessi

      August 8, 2013 at 6:45 pm

      I don’t get the impression that these are right wing anarchists, which I previously thought was an oxy moron. Think more along the lines of the anarchosyndicalism discussed by Chomsky.

      • remingtonalessi

        August 8, 2013 at 6:55 pm

        Wait, never mind. I accidentally skipped the first paragraph. I generally like the idea still, but definitely turned off by the amount of posts about Mises on their Facebook page.

      • Leo

        August 8, 2013 at 7:00 pm

        Anarcho-Syndicalism definitely has its benefits, but I’m not interested in making patchwork solutions by eliminating the State, or making “better” regulations. I’m interested in what system is designed in such to way to not NEED these laws; in other words, the social design makes it impossible for anyone to become “corrupt” or “violent”.

        The part about Anarcho-Syndicalism I don’t like is it, just like all other systems in the past, is based on human labor for income. Are we still using the same train of thought economics several decades ago proposed, or are we going to start realizing the 75% of ALL jobs today could be replaced by human labor because it’s cheaper, more reliable, and precise. They don’t take vacations, sick days, have a bad temper, or are ever late, period.

        The Reality of Technological Unemployment
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oby0ZdDYwiI

        What is a society based on employment to do when more and more of these jobs in the service sector are replaced by robots? What other sector is there to fill? The jobs are not coming back.. with our ability to create “more with less” (as coined by Buckminster Fuller), this game of labor for income will not last, no matter what system it is under. If people are required to pay for goods/services, and require a job to GET money, it’s only a matter of time before unemployment continues to rise past what we’ve ever seen it before.

        • Jenny Hazard

          August 9, 2013 at 7:28 am

          some people actually enjoy work and find satisfaction in contributing to a community.

          • Leo

            August 9, 2013 at 2:11 pm

            That’s perfectly fine, by all means I’m not saying people shouldn’t do what they love, but the point is they don’t have to anymore in a world that can produce an abundance via automation and technology.

            Just like the automobile made the horse and buggy obsolete, that doesn’t mean people don’t ride a horse and buggy for recreation. That’s what all of these obsolete jobs will fall under: recreation.

        • Lewis Smart

          August 10, 2013 at 4:51 am

          As Bucky said,

          “We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”

          How to evenly distribute the proceeds of cheap automated production without some sort of bolshevik clusterfuck is the million dollar question, and personally I’m inclined to look towards the maker revolution, aquaponics, open-source technology, free access to information, etc.

  8. Luke

    August 8, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Is it just me me, or is “voluntary action” a euphemism for selfishness?

    • Gregg

      August 8, 2013 at 3:55 pm

      It isn’t a euphemism to me. It simply means action taken without coercive force being employed to set the action in motion.

      Spending your money to pay for a school in Free Detroit: voluntary action
      Being taxed by Detroit to pay for schools: involuntary action

      • Chris

        August 8, 2013 at 5:28 pm

        Unfortunately, not everyone is willing to spend money to improve the community if they’re not utilizing the service (school in your example). If everyone pitches in, the individual cost per student is lower, and the community as a whole benefits from a higher level of education.

    • John Sabotta

      August 8, 2013 at 4:59 pm

      Does that mean Luke, that you also believe that “forced labor” is another name for “generosity”?

      Actually, for leftists and other power junkies, forcing people to do things is far more important than whatever it is that ‘s actually being done. What matters is who’s giving the orders. That’s all.

      This is a nice idea but Luke represents the mindset of our beloved rulers , and the state will squash this sooner or later. Probably “for the children”.

    • Nate

      August 9, 2013 at 9:52 am

      It is the opposite. Doing something not only because you are forced to.

  9. marcos

    August 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Market anarchy? Really?

  10. Steven Lytle

    August 8, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    As soon as this anarchic area of Detroit gets on its feet, the city will try to take it over.

  11. PJ Proudhon

    August 8, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Who is funding this?

    • remingtonalessi

      August 8, 2013 at 6:56 pm

      Probably the Cato Institute from the looks of the Facebook posts. That, or the estate of Milton Friedman.

      • James

        August 10, 2013 at 11:29 am

        Cato? Milton Friedman? You really have no clue about libertarianism do you, Free Detroit is run by Anarchists which Cato and Milton Friedman would wildly oppose.

  12. Paul

    August 8, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    LMMFAO

  13. Lesa

    August 8, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    City services will still be utilized in fire protection telephone services (receive government subsidies), infrastructure-sewers, road repairs, medical care. The concept I interesting but IMO, too idealistic.

  14. Lesa

    August 8, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    I like the idea of communities and people working together to achieve a goal. How come this cannot be done in conjunction with the government?

    • Sara

      August 8, 2013 at 10:07 pm

      It COULD be done in conjunction with government but they are too busy doing other things. (i.e. starting wars, backing criminals in banking, etc). We as citizens have been waiting for YEARS for government to do anything that involves limiting poverty, creating abundance, and so forth which has NOT happened. Therefore it makes sense to organize and go ahead and do what needs to be done regardless if the government wants to help or not.

      How many years are you willing to wait for real problems and concerns to be addressed? Has the government already has hundreds of years to address these problems not only in the United States but in ALL the governmental structures in the world? Is playing the waiting game for government to solve our problems the reason the problems still exist?

  15. Kate

    August 8, 2013 at 9:32 pm

  16. Abe K.

    August 8, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Market-anarchism is a contradiction in terms.

    • azariusmineur

      August 9, 2013 at 1:04 am

      depending if you have a limited spectrum of understanding within words

  17. kathleen woods

    August 8, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    You really need to get over the little Gov to keep you in your little BOX. I would suggest to keep going with this unity…..THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN ALL OVER THE WORLD.

  18. zac

    August 9, 2013 at 4:54 am

    seriously considering a move to detroit now

  19. James

    August 9, 2013 at 6:16 am

    They’ll be unable to provide sufficient security and the project seems to skirt on the edge of legally so they’ll probably get shut down by the government. Anarchy seems cool to edgy teens but it’s actually unworkable and this is doomed to fail.

    • Sara

      August 10, 2013 at 3:01 pm

      So getting shut down by government = failure? Maybe they are anarchists because the government shuts down the social projects many people start cause they are not in the interests of the rich, the powerful, the politicians, and the business that run this country.

      Letting people experiment with new projects is the only thing that we can do to find better ways of organizing ourselves, better ways of managing the resources we have, better ways of doing better for the earth we are responsible for, better ways of helping the poor and those around us, and better ways to be better people ourselves.

      Anarchy or any type of radical philosophy is basically asking YOU and others to leave them alone to experiment with ideas that can have powerful and unique insights into how we could do things better.

      If they fail, they learn from mistakes. If they succeed, we have new models to discuss, talk about, learn from, etc.

      There are many radicals and anarchists who were beyond “edgy teen” who loved those around them so much they tried everything possible to create better structures for life. Many times failure came at the point of a gun where they couldn’t defend their new communities from the government who interfered with them because they had the crime of “having the wrong ideas”.

      • Prospero

        August 18, 2013 at 2:10 pm

        You are correct Sara: “Many times failure came at the point of a gun where they couldn’t defend their new communities from the government who interfered with them because they had [committed] the crime of “having the wrong ideas”.
        Not unlike the extermination of the Native American, a peaceful, creative civilization that existed for thousands of years at a minimum in perfect harmony with the land and enjoyed true freedom and prosperity; “the wrong idea” according to imperialistic cultures based on slavery and consumption, but “the right idea” for humanity. Native American culture did not “fail”; paradise was destroyed by rogue technology and the diseases that invariably plague such dysfunctional collections of antagonistic appetites;

  20. krls

    August 9, 2013 at 10:57 am

    do you guys have arms and a militia of your own?

  21. William

    August 9, 2013 at 11:33 am

    “Capitalism” must DIE.
    You are neither a CHRISTian nor an AMERICAN if you believe in the practices of USURY.
    USURYISM hates Freedom. Capitalism is the arch-enemy of Freedom and Liberty. About that “sacrosanct” capitalism. Is it EVER mentioned in the Constitution? Did the Founding Fathers believe in USURY? NO, they DID NOT believe in BANKER USURY. The Constitution protects PROPERTY, but I can’t seem to find CAPITALISM in there.
    Throughout history, even before the birth of Christ, usury has been denounced. Aristotle called the birth of money from money ” unnatural”. Today the Federal Reserve prints paper with numerical images and calls it money. The only standard applied today is a value based on speculation which is led by oil in the global economy. After that the debt game starts with values based on who owes what to whom.
    Some of the founding fathers like Thomas Jefferson called banks “more dangerous than standing armies.” Andrew Jackson told a group of bankers they were a “den of vipers and thieves.”
    And Jesus reacted this way — ” And He found in the temple those who sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers doing business. When he had made a whip of cords, He drove them from the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured outthe changers’ of money and overturned the tables” ( John 2:14-15 ) – and President George Bush says Jesus is his favorite philosopher as he backs up the money changers of our times.

    • Pound's Ghost

      August 9, 2013 at 1:03 pm

      Well said. Please check out the works of E. Michael Jones and Michael A. Hoffman, II.

    • Molon Labe

      August 9, 2013 at 1:29 pm

      Maybe you should look up ‘crony capitalism.’ A lot of the evils of the world have been blamed on capitalism, when true free market capitalism has never been tried on a large scale. Corporate banksters always snuggle up to the government and get well meaning people convinced that they need laws to ‘protect’ them from the boogeyman. Those laws always rig the game in favor of the moneychangers, and never work out for the people.

  22. Pound's Ghost

    August 9, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Wow, what a purposely-deceptive title. In what sense can these people be deemed “Anarchists?” They are ORGANIZING something, that means they are the OPPOSITE of “Anarchists” (who are 90% of the time funded by federal law enforcement agencies to create pretexts to shut down protests.) It’s really telling that whoever wrote this story want to telegraph the idea that people who attempt to do things without government involvement are “anarchists.”

    • Molon Labe

      August 9, 2013 at 1:35 pm

      ‘Anarchy’ literally means ‘without ruler.’ Most people who are involved with this project have discovered that the state will take your money, kidnap you if you don’t pay, beat or kill you if you try to defend yourself for what? To bomb another country that refuses to assimilate into their culture? To give to people who refuse to work? To pay corporations who so grossly mismanage their companies that they bankrupt? No thanks, I will keep the fruit of my labor and help my neighbors voluntarily.

      • Prospero

        August 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm

        Exactly Molon Labe. Anarchy, via Latin anarkhia, from the Greek anarkhos: an – ‘without’ + arkhos – ‘chief, ruler’.
        Not unlike, “government of the people, by the people, for the people”, from the Gettysburg Address.

  23. Mike

    August 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    • Prospero

      August 19, 2013 at 4:30 am

      Impressed beyond words.

  24. Mark

    August 9, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    @ Pound’s Ghost If you go to the Free Detroit facebook age they describe themselves as anarchists

    For an introduction to the topic see:

    “Society Without a State” By Murray N. Rothbard

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/how-anarchism-can-work/

    Anarcho Capitalist FAQ has many resources to read

    http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/faq.html

  25. John

    August 9, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    There is no such thing as “market anarchism.” Anarchism has always been anti-capitalist, and remains so today. These people are morons.

    • Mark

      August 10, 2013 at 11:12 am

      @ John

      “There is no such thing as “market anarchism.” Anarchism has always been anti-capitalist, and remains so today.”

      What if everyone doesn’t want to live in communes? Shouldn’t people be free to live in a free market society if they want to?

      • Sara

        August 10, 2013 at 6:07 pm

        You can be anti-capitalist and still have markets that are completely free and free of coercion.

        Capitalism isn’t a representation of markets but systems of ownerships and rights tied to the ownership of certain things.

        See http://www.c4ss.org for analysis on market anarchism, free market socialism, and other ideas.

    • Lewis Smart

      August 10, 2013 at 9:04 pm

      Anarchy remains boundless, and nothing else.

  26. Cinderblock

    August 10, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    So the an-caps are calling themselves “market-anarchists” now? Cute, still sad but cute.

  27. robert

    August 11, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    “Market anarchism” is not anarchism. Capitalism and private property are incompatible with a free, horizontal society. Do not be fooled by this right-wing neo liberalism masquerading as real anarchism.

  28. Danny

    August 11, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    So this is a Rothdardist project? It’s rather hard to tell given the context of the article. I had assumed that it was a mutualist project (market anarchism) but upon reading the comments it seems like it may be an Ayncap experiment. Bummer.

  29. Matthew Heins

    August 11, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    HOW are they going to provide security?

    Because one certain thing is that there are violent people in Detroit and we are talking about outsiders coming in and basically building wealth. Both they and that wealth are vulnerable.

    The article says what everybody knows: Detroit Police and even Fire and EMT/Ambulance services are no good.

    So will they organize their own security? Involving guns and radios and cameras and training and organization? All of which will be necessary to fend off an attack by even ordinary “street criminals”, let alone more targeted attacks that might come after Free Detroit has some success. Are they prepared to do this?

  30. Mr. Bean

    August 12, 2013 at 9:41 am

    just remember “you don’t have to live like a refugee”

  31. BambiB

    August 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Unfortunately, the government will not let this happen. As soon as anything viable is created, the government will move to control it, tax it, and through incompetence and oppression, destroy it.

    Government is evil. All government is evil. Some government is necessary, hence the definition of the phrase “necessary evil”. And yet, in the past few decades, we’ve had far more evil in government than necessary.

  32. Mark

    August 12, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    @Danny

    “So this is a Rothdardist project?”

    Ya it is basically but there are many who have contributed to anarcho-capitalist thought other than Rothbard. But look at the Free Detroit facebook page they are hardcore anarcho-capitalist. You say “Ayncap”. Rothbard was actually very critical of Ayn Rand calling her a conservative (as opposed to libertarian). Rothbard was very critical of government for aiding big corporations and supported charity. Ayn Rand believed charity was communism and never complained about corporations getting privileges from government

    @ Matthew Heins

    This is how gangsters will be handled:

    “The Local Focus: Free Detroit Series – Threat Management”

  33. havi nyberg

    August 13, 2013 at 12:57 am

    Anyone read the US Constitution lately?
    Strip away the last 100 years of ‘case law’, actually treat everyone as if “all men are created equal”, and you might have a game plan.
    Why keep messing with “what sounds good” when you have “what works”?

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    September 3, 2013 at 6:31 pm

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  35. Sharon

    September 3, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Gosh, this sounds a little like how the west was founded. Maybe starting over is not such a bad idea. Good luck to these young “reFounders”.

  36. BLT

    September 3, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    How do the disabled fit into this, Particularly, one who must go to dr./therapy 4x a week and is unable to commit physical labor to society?

  37. Lynn

    September 3, 2013 at 10:05 pm

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