Sen. Feinstein’s Proposed Bill Would Incriminate Anyone Speaking Against NSA’s Spying and Courts

By on October 22, 2013
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by Ali Papademetriou

California lawmaker and member of the United States Senate committee, Diane Feinstein has let it be known that she strongly supports the National Security Agency and its surveillance programs. The agency has caught much heat from the American people after whistleblower Edward Snowden leaked documents showing that the NSA spies on millions of citizens through their phone data.

Last weekend, she published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, claiming that the 9/11 attacks could have been prevented had the NSA surveillance programs been alive beforehand. “We would have detected the impending attack that killed 3,000 Americans,” she wrote.

Then on Monday, she stated that the NSA’s bulk compilation of phone records is actually “not surveillance” and is rather just a necessary device by means of fighting terrorism. Her statement was made in an op-ed, which was published by USA Today.

She also asserted that the agency’s actions have been “effective in helping to prevent terrorist plots against the US and our allies.”

Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, both of whom are also members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, wrote a letter to NSA director Keith Alexander, criticizing him by detailing, “Saying that ‘these programs’ have ‘disrupted dozens of potential terrorist plots’ is misleading if the bulk phone records collection program is actually providing little or no value.” They also detailed how the NSA has only stopped a few pieces of terror plots over the years – contradictory to Senator Feinstein’s assertions.

It was also reported by the Guardian that Senator Feinstein is anticipating introducing legislation, which would criminally punish those who make critical statements about the NSA and its secret courts.

Feinstein’s bill comes just in time in the agency’s favor, considering both the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) have active lawsuits against the NSA for its unconstitutional surveillance of US citizens.

Update 6:06PM: Guardian hyperlink fixed to Feinstein’s upcoming introduction of new bill.

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  1. Andrew

    October 22, 2013 at 2:03 am

    F*** you Feinstein. Would I still be able to say that? We need better leadership in CA. This is crazy.

    • Joe

      October 22, 2013 at 10:54 am

      She’s been around way too long, there’s no hope for her

    • Al

      October 22, 2013 at 4:42 pm

      Amen brother

    • karl

      October 22, 2013 at 5:23 pm

      How the hell could 911 of been prevented when it was most likely either an inside or Israeli job!!! Like fat ole Feinstein would spill the beens on Israel, LMFAO. She needs to be monitored, she needs time in a damn FEMA camp, she is the reason the USA has crashed and burned. No more dual citizens in the United States government ever again! We must vote every single one of them out!

      • Red

        October 22, 2013 at 8:54 pm

        You’re a fascist.

        • RandomInternetStranger

          October 23, 2013 at 3:26 am

          He may be misled, or he may be paranoid, but to call him a fascist? That makes you the misled one.

        • Dan

          October 23, 2013 at 8:00 am

          Why is he a “fascist”? We put fascists into camps after we liberated Europe. This bitch is advocating the rape of this nation’s highest law – it’s Constitution. She’s a traitor, and “time in a FEMA camp” is too good for her. All these traitorous “dual citizens” should be stripped of their offices and put under guard until their crimes have been fully investigated – at a MINIMUM. Think about this: gagging every citizen, every journalist, every duly elected representative of the people, from *speaking a word of criticism* against the NSA? THAT is pure, undiluted totalitarian oppression – your “fascism.”

          • beau

            October 23, 2013 at 7:31 pm

            it is time, if you are as fed up as other americans, that American rises up against this domestic tyranny…. by all means necessary

        • Mattie

          October 24, 2013 at 5:32 pm

          That makes no sense.

      • Nassir

        October 23, 2013 at 2:14 am

        That’S A BOY. I LOVE YOUR IDEA. YES WE SHOULD VOTE ANY ONE IN THE GOVERNMENT WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIP SHOULD GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT>!!!!

      • David

        October 23, 2013 at 9:00 am

        You hit it right on the head, this was an Israeli inside job, so Feinstein only interest here is making sure we are subject to the laws that AIPAC needs enforced in order to insure their reign over the US, its policies, and its treasure.

      • sam

        October 23, 2013 at 10:37 am

        So karl, 9/11 was an inside, Israeli job! You are a f**king idiot!

        • Mike

          October 23, 2013 at 11:03 am

          You have a more plausible explanation? Who has benfitted? Was binladen really stupid enough to believe that knocking down buildings (saving larry silverstein the cost of demolition or the more expensive asbestos removal) would drive the US out of the middle east? NO binladen (or whoever was behind this) was not that stupid.

        • allen heart

          October 23, 2013 at 6:50 pm

          Samuel, YOU are an idiot. We’ve seen that Michael Chertoff was the DOJ head of criminal investigation for the NE region and let all those Israeli spies go back to Israel. We’ve seen that Larry Silverstein bought the WTC lease for a song and got paid billions on the insurance when he changed the terms of the policy to include terrorist attack. We’ve seen that the head of the Port Authority paved the way for Silverstein’s sweet deal. We’ve seen that the judge for all 9-11 litigation was dual loyalty citizen. We’ve seen that Mayor Giulani’s head of Emergency Management got his offices moved to WTC 7 to supervise the Israeli attack on NY and then got the third building in NY to fall the same way the other two had…by free fall following demolition.

          No Samuel, you’re the f**king idiot to think that the goyim would remain stupid and compliant. We know that your buddies spun the propaganda that got us involved in Afghanistan and then lied to us to invade Iraq. Even your buddies in the mainstream news admitted that they had been betrayed by the lies of WMD.

      • sam

        October 23, 2013 at 10:43 am

        Tell me how that happened karl. Do you really believe that happened?!! What a joke you are! I suppose that you live underground with all of your other mouth breathers. IDIOT!

      • largo

        October 23, 2013 at 10:50 am

        pretty good comment. i like your point of view

      • Marcella

        October 23, 2013 at 11:20 am

        If you look into 911 Truth, I think you will see that 911 was bigger than any one country….was set up by small group of globalists who are creating this New World Order….It was predicted in the dollar bill…Can see the buildings fall by folding it a certain way. Phone survellience isn’t going away because it probably could help in a true terrorist attack but 911 isn’t a good example of anything that could have been stopped…all that evidence went down in Building 5 or was it 7 that day.

        • Gary Rayner

          October 26, 2013 at 3:09 am

          The problem is the NDAA and Patriot Act give the president the power to throw anyone he sees as a threat in jail for being a terrorist without a trial and with the way Obama passes/changes laws via executive order the implications a very scary especially since Congress hasn’t called him on it yet.

          • Gary Rayner

            October 26, 2013 at 3:10 am

            are*

      • JB

        October 23, 2013 at 5:50 pm

        “How the hell could 911 of been prevented when it was most likely either an inside or Israeli job!!! ”

        Yeah, a special force of Americans and Israelis’s were behind the attack. How did you finally uncover the truth? Are you insane? oh wait, you must be…

      • allen heart

        October 23, 2013 at 6:29 pm

        Like many Americans, I’m fully aware of the fascism that originates with the dual-loyalty traitors in our midst. Either they declare and denounce their citizenship in Israel or they are ruled ineligible.

        Israel is an illegitimate fascist state that has violated the terms of its permission to form a government in Palestine by not adopting and ratifying a constitution with human rights declarations. They are nearly 60 years overdue.

      • jazames

        October 24, 2013 at 3:28 am

        ole fat feinstein that made over 200 million in insider tradeing with her husband on government contracts. thats useing public office for profit. and thats treason. that zionest trader needs to be removed from office

    • stolichnayaHallucination

      October 23, 2013 at 10:08 am

      oh boy, I was just about commenting the same.. F*** YOU FEINSTEIN

    • Arland

      October 23, 2013 at 6:30 pm

      Feinstein is a freak. She’s a C¥^t. And she’s probably blowing Obama.

  2. Matt

    October 22, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Pres. Bush was warned months before 911 from the Spooks that it was gonna happen and he ignored them all. This idiot needs to get her memory checked as do all politicians who seem to have a 1 term memory.

    • M Sheldon

      October 22, 2013 at 5:19 pm

      Can you post links to back up your argument? Not cutting you down, but I’d like to be able to use the argument myself and be able to quote sources…

      • Nani

        October 22, 2013 at 11:10 pm

        M. Sheldon: Google “August 6 PDB” (PDB stands for Presidential Daily Briefing). It is well documented that Bush and his administration were warned in a Presidential Daily Briefing that Bin Laden was “determined to strike in the US.” This PDB meeting occured on August 6, 2001, not MONTHS before 9/11 but long enough beforehand for them to have acted on that knowledge if they’d cared to.

        • SHMurphy

          October 23, 2013 at 2:31 am

          She even admitted as much in a Wall Street Journal op-ed. Of course it’s behind a paywall, but Gawker provides some helpful snippets, and a breakdown of why everything she said is just a handful of steamy bullshit.

          http://gawker.com/dianne-feinstein-cant-come-up-with-one-good-defense-of-1444887222

        • Gary Rayner

          October 26, 2013 at 3:23 am

          Yes they knew Bin Laden was going to strike the US or it’s assets but they did not know where just like FDR knew the Japanese were going to strike but did not know where. This country was founded on freedom which does come at a cost but when that costs being fearful of their government for what they say or having their personal privacy being taken away then it NOT freedom. “We the People should be demanding her resignation as well as Holder’s and Obama’s for their blatant disregard for the Constitution then perhaps the others with the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Roberts will wise up.

      • Mike

        October 23, 2013 at 8:52 am

        The White House had (at least ) 28 Advanced Intelligence Warnings Prior to 9/11

        http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SMI402A.html

  3. SovereignMary

    October 22, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Come again? What country does Diane Feinstein think she is a representative of? Did she not take a sacred oath to honor the constitution and its 1st Amendment?
    Edward Snowden was not even technically disloyal to America, because he blew the whistle by informing the American people how the NSA was committing nefarious unconstitutional actions upon Americans.
    Now the NSA has been caught red-handed committing nefarious actions upon an ally.—
    “The French government summoned the US ambassador in Paris on Monday to demand an urgent explanation over claims that the National Security Agency had engaged in widespread phone and internet surveillance of French citizens.

    The French daily Le Monde published details from the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden suggesting the US agency had been intercepting French phone traffic on what it termed “a massive scale”.

    Le Monde said more than 70m French phone calls had been recorded in one 30-day period late last year. Techniques included the automatic recording of conversations from certain numbers, and sweeping up text messages based on keywords. The paper warned that the interceptions were likely to have targeted not just those with suspected terrorist links but also people in business, politics and the French administration.

    The French prime minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault, said he was shocked and demanded the US provide “clear answers, justifying the reasons these practices were used and above all creating the conditions of transparency so these practices can be put to an end”.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/21/snowden-leaks-france-us-envoy-nsa-surveillance

    • Michael Clayton

      October 22, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      Governments historically, ours included, are some of the most corrupt entities at any time on this planet! Those in power seem to really like spying on us, its citizens, but don’t like it too much when they are spied on, when their secrets come out when an Edwards Snowden comes along and brings their nefarious deeds to the light of day!

      I completely, 100% distrust our Federal, State and Local Governments. But I do understand a need for the FBI, CIA, NSA to investigate and keep an eye on potential threats to our Country’s National Security when it is done inside the framework of what the Constitution and the Law allows.

      But this bullshit of spying on EVERYONE, that everyone and anybody needs to be monitored by the Federal/State/Local Governments is WAY OUT OF LINE and downright CRIMINAL in my opinion!

      Feinstein, Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi – and a host of others in D.C.- need to be brought up before Congress on charges of Treason witht he way they have played fast and loose with the U.S. Constitution and the Laws they have sworn to uphold!

  4. Scottc

    October 22, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Don’t blame feinstein for anything she says or does, she was born physco and can’t afford proper mental healthcare. If anyone is to blame , it is the people who keep voting for her !!

    • Bolivar

      October 22, 2013 at 5:10 pm

      I wholeheartedly agree!!!

  5. Michael

    October 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Actual, honest-to-God authoritarianism taking root in the United States.
    This is not sensationalized, attention-seeking garbage. This is reality. If we can’t have people like this thrown out of office (at the very least) then this country is belly-up dead.
    We live in a country that operates secret prisons, and is attempting to legitimize arresting citizens for peacefully speaking out against their corrupt leadership. These are the kinds of things that, historically, will ACTUALLY lead to gulags, concentration camps, and state=sponsored mass-murder. If we allow our brothers and sisters to be locked up and taken away for their opinions, then how long will it be until they begin purging the more outspoken among us?

  6. moussaoui ahmed

    October 22, 2013 at 2:31 pm

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    a je peux le choisire 1 de les 13 chiffre des calcule .est entre le mots est l autre je peux faire un poien .pare exemple je veux dire le ( foods ) j ai écrire ou je parle a mon amie ou mes amie qui on en courent de marqué entre nous les chiffre des mots est les chiffre des calcule (14483).alors les ordinateur est l espionnage in capable de lire les mémoire de le peuple de la planète .j ai crolé que vous comprendre est c es pas seulment comme sa .combien nous de les chffre d alphabé .nous factioné les unité de les chiffre des calcul .de 0 a 9 safé 10 chiffre ce qui es plus dans les alphabé des chifre des mots nous laisson le dans son position .est ci nous avon dans le texte les chiffre des calcule comme les date ou comme ca nous le faite entre parentéze .merci

    • John CleanupCowboy McCormick

      October 22, 2013 at 8:21 pm

      @moussaoui ahmed; No we should not have to go to encryption in order to avoid surveillance. The fact is that the surveillance is illegal and must be stopped through pubic demand!

  7. Brendan

    October 22, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    “It was also reported by the Guardian that Senator Feinstein is anticipating introducing legislation, which would criminally punish those who make critical statements about the NSA and its secret courts.”

    -The link to the Guardian piece doesn’t work. Is there another source where we can read this?

    Thank you!

    • Nani

      October 22, 2013 at 11:22 pm

      @ Brendan: One simple way to find a source is to go directly to it. Google “The Guardian Dianne Feinstein” and the first item that will come up is The Guardian’s actual article.

    • Marcella

      October 23, 2013 at 11:25 am

      This is the kind of statements we should be concerned about as it intimidates people into feeling that they can’t speak freely or criticize unconstitutional policies which actually is the duty and responsibility of citizens in a Democracy; therefore, I can only presume she is advocating facism.

  8. Bill

    October 22, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    The headline totally does not fit the article. Where is any information about the purported bill? How about at least identifying the bill by number? How about a link to the bill? How about at least SOMETHING about the bill? Nothing but a vague reference to something The Guardian supposedly reported – without even a link to that.

    • Pffft

      November 1, 2013 at 12:30 pm

      This is what is being called (alternative) journalism today: 1)type up an article containing mostly regurgitated stuff from other sources you already know people are worked up about. 2)Completely make something up that’s even more inflammatory and hide it in one sentence at the bottom of your article, with no supportive information whatsoever. Make sure the link you provide is broken so that most people who read it have time to get worked up about your claim without being able to verify it. 3) Make this inflammatory bit the HEADLINE OF YOUR BULLSHIT ARTICLE EVEN THOUGH YOU PROVIDE NO INFORMATION TO BACK IT UP. People are lazy; if you make your readers do the work of researching your claim, you’re guaranteed that most of them won’t, and they’ll just swallow it up hook, line, and sinker. 4) Then, when enough people start pointing out that your link is broken, link them to an article that says a lot of the regurgitated stuff you know they’re already mad about, but NOTHING CONFIRMING THE CONTENT OF YOUR HEADLINE. 5)Win readership, make living off of people’s credulity and ignorance and laziness.

      The people that eat this shit up the most readily are the ones that rant and rant and rant about how gullible people are. Nobody wants to feel like they are being duped, but if you left a comment railing against this proposed legislation, you have been duped.

      Go to the Guardian article about Feinstein. Be mad about her justifications of the NSA if you wish. But look for the bit about her bill punishing those who speak out. Can’t find it? That’s because it doesn’t exist. The author of this piece made it up. Here’s what the article actually says about the legislation: “Feinstein, a Democrat from California, is introducing legislation that would make superficial alterations to the NSA and the secret courts that are supposed to provide judicial oversight.

      But her bill stops short of making any substantial changes to the way the agency conducts its work, despite the string of revelations based on disclosures by the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.”

      That’s it, period. The sad thing is, this headline will get shared and shared and people will form their political opinions based on a figment, not a fact. It’s exactly like the saying goes -which the people that swallow this tripe whole like to quote– if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it.

  9. Freak

    October 22, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Feinstein is a f’n c_nt and needs to step down. The people are on to her and its time that her rein of terror end. Her fraudulent activities of giving her husbands company government contracts for years has put her in the billionaire category but her free ride is over. She will be lucky to get out without being prosecuted. She has sold her soul and weaved her wicked web and she will pay the price. Karma baby.

    • roqy

      October 23, 2013 at 11:16 am

      Fuck man, Idk where you’re from but California is a wasteland full of zombies, that will for some god aweful reason keep voting pieces of shit like her into office. Trust me I’m trying to leave kalifornia

  10. Michael

    October 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    She reminds me of Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. Looks and acts just like her. Crazy woman.

  11. Paul goodwin

    October 22, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    The Gestapo are getting frisky. Oooops the storm troopers are at my door. If you don’t hear from me again , I told you so! WTF, America the perverse!

  12. Geo

    October 22, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Can you say Gestapo…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

  13. Davol

    October 22, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Boy, it’s really coming down to Feinstein and her NSA or US. I think we’ll kick all of their nosy cowardly butts. She’s not overseeing any NSA she’s cheerleading for it and kissing its butt, and it’s a despicable spectacle to behold.

  14. Smart Man

    October 22, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    That Communist can Kiss my Ass where the sun don’t shine ^5

  15. TJTruthandJustice

    October 22, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    The NSA clearly has the goods on Feinstein. #blackmail

  16. Rosco

    October 22, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    When are the people of Kalifornia going to recall this traitor!

  17. jai

    October 22, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Wow is all I can say. Change has got to come. People need to wake up and become involved in making change.
    So many of us feel the frustration of the leadership and the lacking connection to the common man and his struggle.
    I am tired of the lies, manipulation, and all the f ing BS that goes on in our government. Our basic rights are slowly being
    eroded with out us even knowing. It is like watching a Bad Movie unbelievable what goes on and what they get away with.
    I don’t think any of us know the half of it. Edward Snowden Is a Hero in my opinion. Will be interesting to hear what
    else comes out in the next few months from him. I hope for change for the better.

  18. ronald

    October 22, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    this bitch is crazy
    just look at her face…

  19. HookahBotUniverse

    October 22, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    A necessary measure. The internet has gone too long committing gross felonies and spitting in the government’s eye. How many times does YouTube have to commit fraud by it’s complete rape of the definition “partnership” and not paying said partners? How many times does Kickstarter have to be a form of money laundering and tax-evasion? How many times does Facebook have to use coercion and bullying to get people’s private information, just so they can ban them and treat them like cattle anyway?

    I applaud this woman as it could mean the government will take far more seriously the internet and all it’s criminal and scumbag elements. I’m sick and tired of this Mad Max, anarcho-capitalist, neo-fascism of moderators undoing my hard work, leaving me in the dust without means to communicate, browse, make something of myself. I’m sick of crooks getting away with billions, and paying good money for a video game I can’t play because of moderators all for some slack jawed yokels to defend it because of “terms of service” which is a legal fraud and extortion measure anyway. I hope every last moderator and their lapdog gets thrown into Guantanamo. I really do.

    • Steve Fay

      October 24, 2013 at 10:39 pm

      The irony of your yap is duly noted. The fact that you can not differentiate between the work done via a volunteer basis and that you hope might come to be, albeit on a larger scale, of a paid government overseer, is freaking hilarious … in a sad sort of way. It still involves people, and some still have very poor judgment.

      The NSA for its part is simply aiming to gather important intelligence which might have a bearing on US or world security (or something like that,) and are hardly ever going to be concerned if some people can’t read and abide by certain terms of services, nor a brain in their head to realise some silly service isn’t right for them.

      The NSA and agencies of the like, have always been involved in monitoring net traffic and communication in general, and it’s sad to think that people have such short memories to think surveillance is something new after 9/11. I’m sure there is more than one 90s sitcom to make a joke about US governmental surveillance of some insignificant mail group or similar.

      Slightly off topic, but as per Youtube and facebook comment. If you can not abide by the terms, don’t join. Personally I avoid those sort of areas. Facebook is probably responsible for a lot of children suffering bullying, simply because of the way it structures its client pages without any mature adult to moderate pages. The “moderation” at facebook from what I’ve heard, is no more than a report button with the presumed innocent having to exonerate themselves each and every time. It’s also a site which requires “real names” and exposes the naive to exploitation. Those “unfortunate enough” to use their real name, many children, expose themselves to any harasser obsessively searching other real name areas to continue their assault.

  20. Vic

    October 22, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Look at the evilness on this things face!! I was going to say “womans face” but, that is not a woman!

  21. Ross

    October 22, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Here. Let’s see if she’s willing to put up or shut up:

  22. Tom

    October 22, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Dear Adolf Feinstein, You & your tyrannical bunch of pathological liars, thieves,& genocidal fascist maniacs will be arrested and prosecuted at the highest Earthly & Spiritual levels.

  23. Jack

    October 22, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    It’s Feinstein’s time to be put down out of her old age misery. Crazy old bat.

  24. Tomas

    October 22, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    HS! it’s Hannibal Lecter in a skirt! (RALPH)!!!

    • AL FONTANA

      October 23, 2013 at 4:42 am

      HA HA

  25. Edwin Firmage

    October 23, 2013 at 12:21 am

    F**k Diane Feinstein, illiberal b**ch. I suppose she gets her notions of free speech from Vladimir Putin.

  26. Edwin Firmage

    October 23, 2013 at 12:56 am

    What an illiberal b**ch. Studied constitutional law under Vladimir Putin, did she?

  27. custode

    October 23, 2013 at 1:38 am

    wow so there are people who wants their rights stripped from them why not keep record of her bathroom visits and call it security
    i think she’ll be happy knowing people are watching her sh@# everyday cause she is doing it alot

  28. Amrit Kohli

    October 23, 2013 at 2:33 am

    Bravo. I thought about it and it seemed like it might infringe on First Amendment rights, but after a moment, I realized that defamation is not a protected right. It’s a crime. I applaud you Senator Feinstein. I wish more Americans would understand the price of treason on all the people of this nation, citizen or immigrant, black, white, indian, asian, african, gay, lesbian, straight, poor, rich, soldier, and civilian. I am still reeling over what Edward Snowden did to America. I wish we would have caught him by now. He continues to do so much damage to our nation and allies. Think what you want about America, but treason is not the answer ever if you expect to call yourself an American. He’s no hero. He’s as close to conspiring with the Black Market od Terrorism as a person can be!

  29. Mark Overgaard

    October 23, 2013 at 3:19 am

    Regardless of the Senators remarks, Constitutional freedom of speech, should prevent the law from being enacted.
    It is time that we, the people, just vote these people out of office.
    There are many ways you could support the NSA surveillance, and complain about it, but to make it illegal to complain is Fascist, Communist, Or National Socialist.
    I don’t even care what party she’s from, she’s just wrong. I’m retired Air Force, and I hope that I not only protected the constitution, but also the rights of the people. And, not just the “popular” rights of the people, but all of them.

  30. Z54

    October 23, 2013 at 3:34 am

    The Snowden disclosures of NSA surveillance shows that the NSA has been monitoring not just phone and internet communications by foreigners, but also amerikan citizens since before 9/11. So the NSA grabbing our phone and internet communications along with 56 warnings from allied countries did not prevent 9/11 from happening! It also did not prevent the anthrax attack in the US just 7 days after 9/11. Nor did NSA surveillance prevent the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi or the bombing at the Boston Marathon! So, what is the NSA doing grabbing all of our communications? It’s to keep you, the amerikan sheeple docile and obedient! Well it falls to the people of California to do something about Senator Fruitcake who they have continually sent to Washington for term after term after term! May we, the citizens of the other United States suggest that the people of California should retire Senator Feindstein with extreme prejudice immediately, if not sooner!

  31. AL FONTANA

    October 23, 2013 at 4:43 am

    HAHA

  32. peter saling

    October 23, 2013 at 7:16 am

    Senator,you can put the kool-aide down.You’ll never get the people to believe anything other than the truth of Sept.11 2001.It was an attack orchestrated by Bush and his cronies.And NSA intrusion on the lives of Americans at home and our allies by secretly listening and recording conversations is dispicable. By the way,nice job in Boston NSA,all that listening really paid off there.

  33. Daniel Johnson

    October 23, 2013 at 8:05 am

    The 9/11 lie is so blatant, they had LOTS of warning about 9/11 and they let it through. But of course making it illegal to criticize the government always makes government more popular in it’s own media.

  34. tiffny

    October 23, 2013 at 9:05 am

    You know who you can blame for the downfall of this country? The “baby bommers”. . . The first on wh want who blame everything everyone else and technology.

  35. Eric

    October 23, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Where is the primary source of this information?

    I just looked all over the internet, including the Guardian itself and I cannot find what you are talking about.

    Please post the link. Anyone can make shit up, this kind of accusation needs to be proven to be believed.

  36. jason

    October 23, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Just two examples of NSA knowing about pre 9/11 plans and doing nothing:

    According to former NSA director Michael Hayden, “In early 2000, we had the Al-Hazmi brothers, Nawaf and Salem, as well as Khalid Al-Mihdhar, in our sights. We knew of their association with al-Qaeda, and we shared this information with the [intelligence] community.”[9] The NSA knew about these suspects well before that, however, because an early 1999 NSA communications intercept referenced Nawaf Al-Hazmi, so it was clear that the NSA knew about him for more than two years before 9/11.
     
    The third example has to do with the U.S. Army program called Able Danger that had identified and was tracking Mohamed Atta and several other of the alleged 9/11 hijackers. Alexander was running the Army’s Intelligence and Security Command at the time, and was therefore in charge of Army counterterrorism programs. Apparently, Alexander “covered up and destroyed the Able Danger discovery of two of the 9-11 terrorists prior to 9-11.”[10] The program was shutdown and its records were destroyed in the year before 9/11. Erik Kleinsmith, an Army major who testified to this destruction of evidence, said that Able Danger had shown that the al Qaeda network, prior to 9/11, had “a surprisingly significant presence within the United States.”[11]
     
    These examples indicate that the NSA knew about the alleged hijackers before 9/11 and did little or nothing to stop the attacks. Apparently the NSA is not really in the business of preventing terrorist attacks, no matter what information it obtains. What the NSA’s actual purpose is behind the mass surveillance of American citizens is not yet clear.

    [11] Hearing Before the Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate One Hundred Ninth Congress, Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing, September 21, 2005, U.S. Government Printing Office

  37. Marta

    October 23, 2013 at 10:28 am

    I know there is not that much difference between GOPS and DEMS but Feinstein is way beyond the most conservative DEM- ever since her husband got that 50 Million dollar contract to rebuild the electrical system in Iraq thanks to signing on for the Iraq war with Bush.

    • Ross

      October 23, 2013 at 11:32 am

      Don’t confuse authoritarian with either Liberal or Conservative. Today’s political debates are often misconstrued by terms: “liberal, conservative, progressive, etc”. In reality, the underlying debates are about personal liberties vs authoritarian rule.

      Scary times.

  38. William

    October 23, 2013 at 11:55 am

    There was plenty of evidence in the intelligence and law enforcement agencies’ hands prior to 9/11 but they didn’t do anything about it. Part of the reason they didn’t was due to the political correctness espoused by the likes of Feinstein herself.

    These agencies were hand delivered information from the Russians and others about the Boston Bombers but they still did nothing.

    Let me correct that: they have been doing something. They’ve been finding groups of incompetents grousing about government who would have remained harmless IF they hadn’t sent undercovers to provoke and then supply them with materials to carry out attacks with. Of course they were arrested with much fanfare before that happened or the materials were duds, but the point stands: they set up the attacks instead of using those resources to track down real terror cells, smugglers, drug gangs, etc.

  39. Jerome

    October 23, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    What kind of ridiculous irresponsible crap is this? There is NOTHING in this article about a bill incriminating those who criticize the NSA, except for a link to an article from the Guardian with ABSOLUTELY NOT MENTION of such a bill. This is pathetic.

  40. PeteinDC

    October 24, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Please provide bill number, or link.

  41. Silver Fang

    October 24, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    So anyone who posts anything critical of the NSA program and the FISA courts online could potentially be arrested? That’s a tall order. Does she think every single person who criticizes it can be caught and arrested? It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.

  42. Randall Sisk

    October 24, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    If it annoys Senator Frankenstein I’ll try to double up on complaining. No one in Texas gives a rats turd about any legislation the socialist senior hag tries and fails to introduce. Maybe she could try to beautify the world and retire and shut her pie hole. And piss on the NSA And any other departments misguided by Barry the Malaysian.

  43. davidschuff

    October 24, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    I’m so tired of listening to all you people bitch about the government, quit bitching and do something about it!!! This country has become what it revolted against to become something new!! How bad are we going to let things get before we do something??!! How bad were things before our founding fathers picked up a gun to get their point across??!! Now I dont belive in all that, but in case you havent noticed the government is not listening to us!! Drastic times call for drastic measures!!! Our forefathers had no phones and no internet but organized a revolution, why cant we do the same??!!

  44. Scott

    October 25, 2013 at 12:31 am

    Someone called her Diane Frankenstein…LOL

  45. Debbie

    October 25, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Feinstein wants to keep us all dumbed down, she’s going after the free press also. Her and her husband are getting wealthy off their association with government. Her husband was awarded the contract to sell off the post offices that have been closing down. They stand to profit up to a billion dollars for that. Google it or if you are one who still checks snopes…it’s there also. Follow the money folks, follow the money. Some people in Congress are makin’ bank and she is one of them.

  46. mandoliv

    October 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    I think this has more to do with the general leftist agenda than any one incident or attack. But, the Democrats always play to emotions because they know it works, so they ALWAYS pull the Sept. 11 card. Did they catch the boston bombers,even though we now know there was plenty of chatter to go on? Nope. did they detect the Kenya thing? Nope. Did they use their powers to derail Petraeous and others? Probably. Did they use their powers to buy a Supereme Court justice? Most likely. Is the DOJ as corrupt as all the other agencies? Yep.

  47. mandoliv

    October 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    If you look at the Congressional REcord of Jan. 10 1963, you will see that for the left, this is not a sprint, it’s a 100 year plan, just like the Islamic jihadists. It’s not shocking at all, and they have succeeded in making the only shocking part, the part where some of us say Hey, this isn’t right. That in itself is the plan. Make the lie the truth, and criminalize anything that gets in the way. They have succeeded in a number of things on that list, and promting promiscuity etc. is 100% in effect. Make pot perfectly fine, but criminalize someone who is within their rigths (ie Amendment 2, 4th and 14th etc) Make social justice the status quo. Promote dependency on the gov., where complaints will just get you arrested.

  48. Patriot

    October 25, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Prevent the attacks on 9-11?? But it was our own missile that hit the Pentagon by the video and photographic evidence. So what is Senator Frankenstein proposing? That if Bush, Cheney, etc, etc, had been properly under surveillance that the false flag attacks could have been prevented? WHY not release the sequestered videos that will show the missile hitting the Pentagon and explain to the public that the WTC towers were brought down by explosives? THEN maybe we’ll believe that the NSA is really concerned with our ‘security!’

  49. Patriot

    October 25, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    As far as the Boston bombers, it had nothing to do with the Tsarnoev brothers! Just Google the images available! It was a false flag attack, a hoax, another excuse to ratchet up the fear of Muslims. Look at the photos that show without a doubt it was tall white guys, U.S. mercenaries that detonated the fake bombs. What a joke. Wake up!

  50. michael

    October 25, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    got to watch that woman carefully. not to be trusted.

  51. michael

    October 25, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    she’s as phony as the cheap make-up she uses to paint that wicked face.

  52. skt

    October 26, 2013 at 12:38 am

    Feinstein is a problem and if you still vote for people like Feinstein, you are part of the problem.
    Scratch that, if you are voting period you are the problem.

    Stop legitimizing their rule.

  53. Arruro

    October 27, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    It would not have helped Ms. Feinstein, because the 9/11 attack was done by elements in the U.S. government.

  54. G Alan D

    October 31, 2013 at 8:08 am

    If some use 911 as an excuse for hiding and excusing NSA activities, then they should open up an objective 911 inquiry to answer all the contradictions in their theory of the events so that the NSA can direct their spying in the right direction to prevent another occurrence.

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